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Guys, after more or less one month of no smoking in pubs, bars and discos in Italy the conclusion has to be that this is the best law since "Thou shall not kill".
I don't know how many of you smoke in here but going out has a whole new quality when you don't come home at night feeling like a smoked salmon, having to immediately wash your hair and your clothes because they stink so badly. Even some of my friends who smoke think so because now they smoke less.
I demand the world wide implementation of this law NOW! Well done Berlusconi!
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eg, divorce is still illegal in Malta - it is the only place in the world apart from Philippines if I am not mistaken and... the Vatican City (I think)....
A beer without a cigarette loses half of the pleasure.
And I like smoking.
But now you go to a pub and you can breath. It's beutiful.
Unbelievable, Silvio's government did ONE GOOD THING:o!!
1) It's Birmingham and the thought of getting stabbed, shot, verbally abused or punched ain;t my cup of tea really.
2) I HATE stinking of smoke in pubs. People who smoke don't smell it cos they smoke and smell it all the time. I am not willing to go in a pub and smell my coat the enxt day and it smells of tobacco.
The excuse smokers are using here in the Uk against a possible ban makes me laugh. they say 'Well they don't have to go into a pub if they don't like it'....
Er I'm sorry mate, who gave you the god given right to smoke in pubs anyway? Non-smokers can also say 'You don't have to come in a pub if you don;t like it,' the difference being that non-smokers won't damage your health and make you stink of tobacco if you do!!!
I think people would be very surprised what would happen if they banned smoking. The lure of alcohol would be too great to stop people frequenting pubs. You'd also get people who don't like stinking like an ashtray coming back to pubs and clubs...........Me for one am too scared of the injuries associated with going out so will stay indoors and play on the PC or sleep!!
This is coming from a smoker, by the way.
Secondly, in the name of God, take that photo off the website.
PS I hate smelling of smoke too but this is not an issue for government - voluntary smoke free pubs in London do roaring business but, if people really want to sit in a smoky atmosphere, that's up to them. Let the market decide.
Just you then ;);)
It's all about control, nothing else.
As Viges says, why can't there be smoking, and non-smoking venues, huh? Cause smoking has eff-all to do with it, that's why.
When smokers were in the majority you could smoke anywhere. Now they're in the minority, you can't smoke anywhere. Both are wrong.
I was at a comedy club for a couple of hours the other night and I left the place with a horrendous headache. Got home and showered, hair smelled of it. Got out and realised that my clothes stunk so bad that the entire room smelled. ugh.
Otherwise I think I'm a reasonably tolerant guy.
However, I dislike smoking intensely, and remember the bad old times when you could have your meal or drink completely spoilt by a smoker nearby.
My car, house and office are also strictly "non-smoking".
It's still bad enough when you find the men's room is polluted by a smoker having a quiet puff in a stall. Or you have to run the gauntlet of the smoking pariahs clustered around the building exit. But usually, my feeling of temporary personal discomfort is less than my sadness for the people involved who seem unable to avoid the damage they're doing to themselves.
I think of the three evils: cell-phones, alcohol and tobacco, cigaerettes will finally lose out. With only two hands, the cell phone, drink and finger food is enough of a challenge without trying to hold an incendiary device as well.
Maybe someone will invent a puff machine where the addicted can inhale and exhale through tubes where the deadly fumes and smouldering ashes are kept away from our "clean air".
Which reminds me that there is still the problem of several smokers getting into your lift (that's an elevator Emmet!) and reeking their topped up lungs, clothers and hair all over us clean people. Can we please get detox units for smokers to go through before re-joining clean society.
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[Edited on 5/2/2005 by Dr_Spin]
I just can't imagine what success a non smoking venue in Innsbruck would have, it would have to shut down after a couple of days with the only ever visitor being our "beloved" female major.
No guys, sometimes people have to be "guided" in their decision.
In that case the general law must be changed.
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After that, you can go through about fifty other major air pollution causes that are directly affecting health before you get to passive smoking.
Nah, then you'd all have to accept some culpability, wouldn't you?
Bastard smokers...........killing everyone............bastards....
Theres a subject I'm trying to give up at the moment:(
Im with manlio27 but at the same time, I rather not expose my young son to the risks of passive smoking. If there were some non smoking pubs (or no smoking areas) at least I could still enjoy half of the pleasure!!
People should have choice - if the market is there for smoke-free pubs and bars (and it is) then they will succeed.
Big Government has a catastrophic and insidious effect on the ability of people to take responsibility for ANY of their actions. Everything becomes the fault of 'the government' or someone else. If you treat people like children they will behave like children.
"The liberty of the individual must be thus far limited; he must not make himself a nuisance to other people" (JS Mill).
it also has very little to do with the nanny state I'd say. If people next to me were doing coke I couldn't care less as long as it doesn't involve me. However if my clothes start to stink (and I'm not even talking about the health risk as I find the former far more irritating) because someone else wants to have a fag than he or she should have the courtesy to smoke outside. Am I being completely irrational here?
Of course you and I shouldn't have to put up with someone smoking on the next table but leave them to it. It has nothing to do with you or government. Smoking bars/restaurants will become decreasingly popular.
You're the one that started a thread about the tobacco industry on a Formula 1 website :P