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1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 point
b. Winner of GP - 3 points
c. Second in GP - 2 points
d. Third in GP - 1 point
e. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
f. Albers race finish position - 2 points (1 point if prediction is dnf/dns/dq)
g. Friesacher race finish position - 2 points (1 point if prediction is dnf/dns/dq)
All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6 two days before race day.

2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. 3 nights free accomodation for 2 in Kuala Lumpur for the Malaysian GP in 2006 or at anytime before the Malaysian GP 2006 (this prize is transferable to any third party by the winner...plus whatever additional prize R-J wants to throw in. :-)

3.0 The organiser is FactyCrab.

4.0 The qualifying and race results first published by formula1.com will be used to judge the bets placed. No appeal to organiser's decision which is final.

5.0 If the organiser cannot make a decision, he will consult R-J and/or Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.

6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be submitted before the first quali session start. Any bets submitted after the first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have been done. it just says which date the edit was done.

7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification resulting from not starting the race does not fall under this descrition of DQ.

8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.

9.0 The referees of this 2005 ForzaMinardi Challenge are FactyCrab, Forzaminardi and Minardi4eva. A majority decision from these 3 is required to settle any dispute. if the dispute concerns the referee's bet, then the other 2 referee must adjudicate and arrive at a decision unanimously.


Results after Rd.2 - Sepang

Pos/Name/After Rd.1/Rd. 2/After Rd.2
1 Biker 1 9 10
2 Clown 3 6 9
3 Ati 3 5 8
4 Murph 3 4 7
4 JumpeySpyder 3 4 7
6 MinardiP1 1 5 6
6 yokosuna 0 6 6
6 hasek2 0 6 6
9 FactyCrab 4 1 5
9 Minardifan2002 4 1 5
9 Brooksey 0 5 5
9 Skruff 0 5 5
13 salvo 3 1 4
13 Minardi4eva 3 1 4
13 Homer 1 3 4
13 manlio27 1 3 4
17 Telstar 3 0 3
17 Neil_s 2 1 3
17 forzaminardi 1 2 3
17 SuperRoo 1 2 3
17 Minardus 0 3 3
17 Lease 0 3 3
17 steamdrivenhammer 0 3 3
24 ThunderboltSeven 2 0 2
24 Ger 1 1 2
24 max_torq 0 2 2
24 minardirule 0 2 2
24 xiola 0 2 2
29 Manni 1 0 1
29 Jello_Biafra 0 1 1
29 ronaldinho2005 0 1 1
29 Bish 0 1 1
33 dst 0 0 0
33 TasM 0 0 0
33 Walker 0 0 0


All bets are now open forthwith....

All members are advised to re-read the above rules as they might have been updated from time to time to aid clarification.

[Edited on 29/3/2005 by FactyCrab]

[Edited on 31/3/2005 by FactyCrab]

[Edited on 31/3/2005 by FactyCrab]


  • a. Fisichella
    b. Alonso
    c. Webber
    d. M Schumacher
    e. Sato
    f. DNF
    g. 12
  • Pole - Alonso
    Winner- Alonso
    2nd - Kimi
    3rd - M Schumacher

    First out - Albers

    Albers - dnf
    Friesacher 13th

    [Edited on 31/3/2005 by Ger]
  • Pole: Trulli
    Winner: Fisichella
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: edit: Michael Schumacher

    First DNF: Narain
    Albers: DNF
    Friesacher: 16th

    [Edited on 1/4/2005 by forzaminardi]
  • Pole Alonso
    Winner Alonso
    Second Barrichello
    Third Trulli
    First DNF Friesacher
    Albers 13
    Friesacher DNF

  • a. Pole Fisichella
    b. Winner Fisichella
    c. Second Alonso
    d. Third Raikkonen
    e. First DNF Sato
    f. Albers dnf
    g. Friesacher 13th
  • a. Pole getter - Fisichella
    b. Winner of GP - Alonso
    c. Second in GP - Fisichella
    d. Third in GP - Räikkönen
    e. Klien
    f. Albers race finish position - 13
    g. Friesacher race finish position -14

    [Edited on 31/3/2005 by Homer]
  • Pole - Kimi

    1st - Kimi
    2nd - Alonso
    3rd - Fisi

    1st DNF - Schummi Jr

    Paddy - DNF
    Albers - DNF
  • pole fisichella
    win Fisichella
    2nd Mschumacher
    3rd alonso
    1st out sato
    albers 18
    friesacher 17
  • Pole - Alonso
    Winner- MS
    2nd - Alonso
    3rd - Fishy

    First out - JV

    Albers - 15
    Friesacher 14
  • Facty - What happens with the guys who have put Monty as one of their selections? Do they automatically get changed to PDLR if they dont edit their posts?

    Plus rule 5.0 needs changing! ;)
  • Facty - What happens with the guys who have put Monty as one of their selections? Do they automatically get changed to PDLR if they dont edit their posts?
    see rule 6...they can edit their bets up to 2 days before the race.
    Plus rule 5.0 needs changing!
    will do...thanks
  • Pole: Montoya
    win: Alonso:D
    2nd: Barrichello
    3rd: Montoya

    Albers: 15th
    First out: Sato:spank:
  • Facty - what i meant was will the guys who have selected Monty, what happens if they DONT edit their original posts? Will the automatically have PDLR or not? Just want to clarify things before things get messy! The rule doesnt actually state what happens.
  • i see what you mean, 4eva...thanks.

    well, i would say that clause 1 says "exactly", so we shouldn't have any variation to this and therefore we wouldn't assume the bettors meant montoya's (or anybody else in the future) replacement when he's not racing....especially we have the freedom to edit clause.

    do you and robert-jan agree to my interpretation/clarification?

  • Pole: Alonso
    Winner : Alonso
    Second: Fisichella
    Third: Trulli
    First Retire: Jacques Villenueve
    Albers Finish: dnf
    Friesacher Finish: 14th

    [Edited on 30/3/2005 by steamdrivenhammer]
  • a. FA
    b. GF
    c. FA
    d. MW
    e. TM
    f. 16
    g. 14
  • Pole: Trulli
    1st: Alonso
    2nd: Raikkonen
    3rd: Trulli
    First out: Massa
    Albers: 15th
    Friesacher: 14th
  • Pole: Alonso

    1st: Fisi
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Coulthard

    First out: Monteiro

    Albers: 12th
    Friesacher: 14th
  • a: FA
    b: FA
    c: GF
    d: MW
    e: TS
    f: 16
    g: 15
  • Yeah im happy with that Facty
  • Pole: FA
    1st: FA
    2nd: GF
    3rd: MW
    1st Out: MS
    Elbows: 10
    Fries with that: DNF
  • Pole: MW
    1st FA
    2nd RB
    3rd MW
    1st Out TS
    Albers 12th
    Friesacher 10th
  • If some guys do their tips really early and then the driver pulls out in the week leading up to the race, that's tough titties imho. You shouldn't *automatically* get their replacement, it's just the luck of the draw! :spank:

    Pole: Alonso
    Winner: Alonso
    Second: Webber
    Third: MSchu
    1st out: Sato
    Albers: 14th
    Friesacher: DNF

  • Pole:Fisichella

    1st: Fisichella
    2nd: Kimi
    3rd: Trully
    First out: Sato

    Albers: dnf
    Friesacher: dnf
  • A. Alonso
    B. Alosno
    C. M Schumacher
    D. Fisichella
    E. Massa
    F. 13
    G. 14
  • Pole getter - F. Alonso
    Winner of GP - F. Alonso
    Second in GP - G. Fisichella
    Third in GP - K. Raikkonen
    1st car out - M. Schumacher
    Albers race finish position - dnf
    Friesacher race finish position - dnf
  • unfortunaley the ferraris will return to p1 this grand prix

    pole = alonso
    1st = M Scumacher
    2nd - f - alonso
    3rd - barrichello
    1st out = villeneunve
    albers = dnf
    patrick = dnf
  • a. Pole Trulli
    b. Winner Alonso
    c. Second Fisichella
    d. Third MSchumacher
    e. First Out Button
    f. Albers 12th
    g. Friesacher 9th
  • Geez, everyone shows so much confidence in Sato on this board...

  • a. Alonso
    b. Alonso
    c. Trulli
    d. Raikkonen
    e. Ralf Schumacher
    f. DNF
    g. 17th
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