Rita

dst

Holy dogshit. Category 5. Can't seem to catch a break here, anybody in the path, keep your heads down.

MCSF

Wear your rubbers.

BTW - if global warming is the cause of all this terrible weather and the US is the cause of global warming why don't we get thank you notes when everything is bright and warm?

Telstar

In the Houston, TX area. Probably going to head upstate at some point. My area should get projected 100 mph wind. Not too bad on the flooding side in my neighborhood, it has been dry for a good while so hopefully the ground will absorb all of it before any starts raising.

MCSF

good luck - batten down the hatches.

viges

Good luck Texas.

What does your former Governor say to the fact the number of category 4/5 hurricanes has nearly doubled in the past 35 years? Completely unrelated to human behaviour?

Dr_Spin

Good luck everyone over there.

I am encouraged that more and more scientists of repute are at last going vocal over the crass stupidity of Bush on global warming.

The slow learning professional doubters in the US are causing the world to wait too long to start action. It is time they were told that their mind-set is stuck back in the fifties and sixties when the problem wasn't recognised.

Spin

Minardus

I also find it stupid that the world always waits for the USA to take action or to respond to something before acting/giving response themselves.

Why can't all the other countries do things without the USA ????:spank:

Telstar

Have decided to stay where we are at on the west side of Houston, traffic is horrible. Most of my neighbors have also decided to stay. Looks like it will be a Cat 3 or strong 2 when it hits. Besides the 9mm hole in our garage door, were doing fine.

Also any US members taping the race? Hopefully will have power and be able to catch the race but if not I would like to get a copy of it.

Thanks,

Telstar

Jello_Biafra

May I enquire about this 9mm hole.. :rolleyes:

Dr_Spin

I also find it stupid that the world always waits for the USA to take action or to respond to something before acting/giving response themselves.

Why can't all the other countries do things without the USA ????:spank:

Fact is they do and they are.

There is near world concensus on global warming, with most countries other than the US, Australia and a few allies of the US who are taking action, are trying to develop a gobal strategy but can't get the worlds major polluter to join the club

The US is the largest contributor to the harmful greenhouse gas emissions. The US approach has been widely seen as refecting the views of powerful industry captains who deny the greenhose gas link to global warming and climate change.

I can tell you as one who works in the industry, that within companies and research institutes there are very concerned specialists who understand the problems, but in the end it is the "bottom line" that rules and the true costs don't show in that bottom line yet.

Now the problem is that unless the biggest contributor to the problem commits, others see their efforts as largely futile, because while they may hold their own emission levels, the US will continue to worsen the problem.

China, Japan, Europe, Russia all understand the problem and may overtake the US in developing solutions, but we're concerned about the time it will take to reverse the short term damage being done by inaction at the moment.

What about China and India?

Do we want to wait unitl they overtake the US in their gross emission levels? I think not. US leadership is needed now, while it can influence global practice. But once again US leadership and credibility is going down the drain and up in smoke.

Spin

Dr_Spin

BTW, at 1.24 UTC this morning there was an earthquake of magniutude 5.0 not too serious) 530 miles south of Brownsville Tx (810 Mile S of Houston.

The magnitude is such that a tsunami will NOT be generated, according to preliminary information from the tsunami warning centre, but just imagine a tsunami on top of Rita's storm surge.

Guess we should be grateful for small things.

Spin

MCSF

I got you covered t star - dvd or video - but you need to arm yourself!

MCSF

Doc.

1. You have not taken the bait on why , when good weather presents itself you do not write a thank you note to us US polluters

and

2. when are you going to require china and India to be signatories to Kyoto - after all hidining behind this bullshit of developing countries is laughable

and

3. why do you bust W's balls when Clinton gave you lip service but did not support it in our Senate - and remember too you ferign devils that the President of the US is not the one to make international treaties - our Senate does.,

So - the vote UNDER Clinton was something like 99 - 0 against. Whose fault was that?

viges

Good to know Telstar has got his priorities right - good luck old son and we'll make sure you see the GP.

Forza! (but not Storm Forza)

MCSF

Are you mad Viges? His priorities should be GUNS then shelter water and food. If you run out of the food and water the gun will get them for you.

That is why you lost and we won - remember the basis for the shot heard 'round the world.

viges

Quig, of course I'm mad, I'm conversing with you.

Guns, Katrina and New Orleans didn't make for a great recipe. Yes, I believe in using guns ... in a war, not a civil emergency. However, the US of A will never snap out of its Wild West delusion on this one. I love you all, but ...

re: climate change. I'm not a tree-hugger, as you know, but if Bush doesn't acknowledge climate change after this then he never will. US consumption of fossil fuel simply has to come down. China and India will never do anything on their own.

Dr_Spin

Doc.

1. You have not taken the bait on why , when good weather presents itself you do not write a thank you note to us US polluters

and

2. when are you going to require china and India to be signatories to Kyoto - after all hidining behind this bullshit of developing countries is laughable

and

3. why do you bust W's balls when Clinton gave you lip service but did not support it in our Senate - and remember too you ferign devils that the President of the US is not the one to make international treaties - our Senate does.,

So - the vote UNDER Clinton was something like 99 - 0 against. Whose fault was that?

Responses:

1) You were actually serious?

2) China will, as soon as the US. I worked with a marine scientist from the China 2nd Institute of Marine Science and belive me, those guys know what this is about. Their Government also can act quickly and I suspect they are already working on technical solutions while the US remains in denial.

3) Try to understand that this is not about politics. The only ways to force the politicians into action are:

1) money, and we can't compete with big business
2) public opinion

Why Bush and not Clinton? Bush is still President, Clinton is not.

Spin

MCSF

re 1 - yes.

FactyCrab

my heart pours out to all you yanks affected...take care telstar and all affected, good luck!

Telstar

May I enquire about this 9mm hole.. :rolleyes:

Happened around 1:30 AM Friday. Never heard a shot, but my parents heard the impact on the garage door and the mirror it hit shatter in the garage. I found the hole in the garage door later, and even later I found the round. Have to call back the Police, they want to take pictures and match it to some shells they found at another location.

Anyways the power is fine at my location, just wind and light rain last night. Have food and water, and glad that I don't have to deal with the traffic that will be coming back here.

Thanks for offering MCSF, with the power on I will be able to see the GP. Also we are armed, not as much as I would like, but we do have a functioning Police force.