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1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 points (pole getter is defined as the one who is on pole
when the race is started)
b. Winner of GP - 4 points
c. Second in GP - 3 points
d. Third in GP - 2 points
e. Fourth in GP - 1 point
f. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether
through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag
for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
g. Name the ex-Minardi driver who finishes in the highest
position in the race amongst all ex-minardi drivers - 2 points

All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out
before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in
the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6
two days before race day (e.g. if race day is on Sunday, final edit right is
day-stamp of post Friday).

2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. the glory of being the season's Forzaminardi.com champion...plus whatever additional prize R-J
or the others may want to throw in. :-)

3.0 The organisers are manlio27 and FactyCrab.

4.0 The qualifying and race results FIRST published by formula1.com will be
used to judge the bets placed unless the referees by a majority decision decide to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race. No appeal to organisers' decision which is

5.0 If the organisers cannot make a decision, they will consult R-J and/or
Neil_s and/or Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.

6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be
submitted before the first quali session starts. Any bets submitted after the
first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first
quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday
practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is
because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have
been done, it just says which date the edit was done.

7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification
resulting from and/or with not starting the race does not fall under this description of

8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the
bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.

9.0 The referees of this 2011 ForzaMinardi Challenge are FactyCrab, manlio27,
Forzaminardi, Neil_s and Minardi4eva (if Neil, R-J, Facty and 4eva agree). A majority decision
from these 5 is required to settle any dispute. If the dispute concerns the
referee's bet, then the other 4 referees must adjudicate and arrive at a majority

Results after Rd 11 (HUN):
Pos/Pos Before/Name/After Rd.10/Rd. 11/After Rd. 11
1. 2. PistonBroke 72 2 74
2. 1. Telstar 66 4 70
3. 3. JumpeySpyder 54 5 59
4. 4. Neil_s 46 4 50
5. 5. SuperRoo 38 6 44
6. 6. Manlio27 34 2 36
7. 7. Factycrab 28 0 28
8. 8. Lease 22 0 22
Congrats to SuperRoo, winner in Hungaroring. Telstar got closer again to PistonBroke.
RJ, can you please top this post, should you appear?
My predictions for Spa:

Pole: Vettel
1st: Clewlis
2nd: Vettel
3rd: Webbo
4th: Button
Fisst out: Massa
Best ex-Minardi: Webbo

Here are Neil_s's predictions for Spa:

Pole Hamilton
1st Alonso
2nd Hamilton
3rd Button
4th Massa
1st out Algersuari
best ex Alonso

And here are SuperRoo's predictions:

Pole Alonso
1st Vettel
2nd Webber
3rd Alonso
4th Clewlis
1st out Senna
best ex Webber


  • Pole Webber
    1st Vettel
    2nd Webber
    3rd Schumacher
    4th Hamilton
    1st out Senna
    best ex Webber
  • Pole: S. Vettel
    1st: S. Vettel
    2nd: J. Button
    3rd: M. Webber
    4th: F. Alonso
    First out: P. De Resta
    Best ex-Minardi: M. Webber
  • Pole Webber
    1st Webber
    2nd Alonso
    3rd Hamilton
    4th Vettel
    1st out d'Ambrosio
    best ex Webber
  • Wow, double wow!

    That really was fun to watch. From Rosberg using the Merc's grunt to lead the first lap, through to to the Swervemaker camped on the same driver's rear towards the end like a stalking lion, it was pure excitement.

    What can anyone say about Webber's pass on Alonso through Eau Rouge?? They could say stupid, crazy, brave, pointless, impulsive, and all would be true. The thing is though; when did so many millions of people collectively draw breath and for a millisecond wonder..........What made it so amazing was that you could see it comming. You could see the body langauage of Webber's car as he came down from La Source. You just knew that he was going to do it, so the tension had time to build. In one instant, the amazement at all the great and past moments of F1, were transplanted into the hearts of those watching, and they knew; This is what makes it special.

    There were so many great passes in the race. It was as if the track was saying; "OK, you've given me a chance with all these gadgets, now watch what I can deliver".

    Big shame for the Toro Rosso boys. They worked hard to get a good start, and didn't deserve what they got. I have said it before and I'll say it again; I don't like Kobayashi. He is just plain dangerous. Sure Lewis may have done his usual stupid arrogant nonesense, but what did Kobayashi expect to achieve hanging out there??? Actually, I was amazed the Lewis took the rap.

    He was much more at fault with the two incidents in Monaco and there was an echo from there in the incident in Qualy. Twitching towards the Venezuelan as if to say, 'suck on this' was about as stupid as anything one can think of. Doesn't go at all to mittigating the latter's reaction, but to me it seemed like saying to a Colombian drug dude; "come off it mate, you haven't got the balls to pull the trigger".

    There was so much in that race that you could go on for hours about it. More of them please.
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