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2012 FORZAMINARDI CHALLENGE - Round 11 Hungary 27th - 29th July 2012


1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 points (pole getter is defined as the one who is on pole
when the race is started)
b. Winner of GP - 4 points
c. Second in GP - 3 points
d. Third in GP - 2 points
e. Fourth in GP - 1 point
f. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether
through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag
for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
g. Name the ex-Minardi driver who finishes in the highest
position in the race amongst all ex-minardi drivers - 2 points

All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out
before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in
the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6
two days before race day (e.g. if race day is on Sunday, final edit right is
day-stamp of post Friday).

2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. the glory of being the season's Forzaminardi.com champion...plus whatever additional prize R-J
or the others may want to throw in. :-)

3.0 The organisers are manlio27 and FactyCrab.

4.0 The qualifying and race results FIRST published by formula1.com will be
used to judge the bets placed unless the referees by a majority decision decide to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race. No appeal to organisers' decision which is

5.0 If the organisers cannot make a decision, they will consult R-J and/or
Neil_s and/or Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.

6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be
submitted before the first quali session starts. Any bets submitted after the
first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first
quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday
practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is
because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have
been done, it just says which date the edit was done.

7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification
resulting from and/or with not starting the race does not fall under this description of

8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the
bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.

9.0 The referees of this 2012 ForzaMinardi Challenge are Lease, manlio27,
Forzaminardi, PistonBroke and Telstar (if Lease, R-J, Piston and Telstar agree). A majority decision
from these 5 is required to settle any dispute. If the dispute concerns the
referee's bet, then the other 4 referees must adjudicate and arrive at a majority

Results After Round 10:

Jumpeyspider 28-7-35

Superoo 34-0-34

Lease 23-0-23



  • Pole: Grosjean

    P1: Hamilton
    P2: Grosjean
    P3: Vettel
    P4: Alonso

    Best Ex: Alonso

    First Out: Maldonado
  • Pole: Clewlis

    P1: Clewlis
    P2: Grosjean
    P3: Kimi
    P4: Alonso

    Best Ex: Alonso

    First Out: M$

    [Edited on 27-7-12 by SuperRoo]
  • FP 1 started
  • Sorry, lease, rule 6 states that bets must be placed before first quali starts. it means Q1 on Saturday, not FP1. Rule 6 does not say you cannot change your bets after Friday practice, it says you must not EDIT as edit only says the date, so you must post a new reply that replaces the previous bet.

    Let's discuss, but we've always done like this.

    My bets for Hungary are:

    Pole: Clewlis
    1st: Clewlis
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Kimi
    4th: Button
    First out: Senna
    Best ex-Minardi: Alonso
  • I'm gonna have to agree with Manlio on this. Also I thought any changes had to be placed to vote by the referees or participants. As with Manlio, I am open for discussion on this.

    Pole: Hamilton
    1st: Hamilton
    2nd: Raikkonen
    3rd: Alonso
    4th: Button
    First out: Maldonado
    Best ex-Minardi: Alonso
  • I have no problem with Lease editing his post as it clearly shows it was done yesterday.

    Pole: S. Vettel
    1st: L. Hamilton
    2nd: S. Vettel
    3rd: F. Alonso
    4th: M. Webber
    First out: P. Di Resta
    Best ex-Minardi: F. Alonso

    Good Luck everyone ! :)
  • Sorry, I meant Roo editing his post - its those blue and white flags confusing me !! ;)
  • Pole: Hamilton
    1st: Raikkonen
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Vettel
    4th: Webber
    First out: Maldonado
    Best ex-Minardi: Massa
  • WTF?? I've been away for the weekend. Wahoo!, I started a controversy.

    Just read the rukes wrong. Please feel free to follow the written word.
  • Results After Round 11:

    Superoo 34-9-43

    Jumpeyspider 35-6-41

    Lease 23-6-29

    Telstar 15-11-26

    Manlio 11-8-19

    Pistonbroke 16-2-18

    Forza 2-0-2

    After a dramatic week of controversy where the co-opted judge got drunk and declared everyone illegal, some big scores have noved the points table around. Just one point now separates the leaders!

    [Edited on 30-7-12 by Lease]
  • Lease, I believe I scored a 9. Pole, P1, Ex Minardi and 1st out
  • Mea Culpa! (again)

    Only added one point for best ex and missed the first out (a very prescient prediction). Have ammended all thos with best ex. That means everybody except Piston who picked Massa as best ex.
  • Yes - an obvious typo on Massa :(
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