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1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 point (pole getter is defined as the one who is on pole
when the race is started)
b. Winner of GP - 4 points
c. Second in GP - 3 points
d. Third in GP - 2 points
e. Fourth in GP - 1 point
f. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether
through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag
for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
g. Name the ex-minardi driver (excluding Alonso) who finishes in the highest position in the
race amongst all ex-minardi drivers - 2 points

All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out
before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in
the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6
two days before race day (e.g. if race day is on Sunday, final edit right is day-stamp of post Friday).

2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. one very attractive racing teeshirt...plus whatever additional prize R-J
or the others may want to throw in. :-)

3.0 The organiser is FactyCrab.

4.0 The qualifying and race results first published by formula1.com will be
used to judge the bets placed. No appeal to organiser's decision which is

5.0 If the organiser cannot make a decision, he will consult R-J and/or
Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.

6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be
submitted before the first quali session start. Any bets submitted after the
first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first
quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday
practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is
because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have
been done. it just says which date the edit was done.

7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification
resulting from not starting the race does not fall under this descrition of

8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the
bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.

9.0 The referees of this 2005 ForzaMinardi Challenge are FactyCrab,
Forzaminardi and Minardi4eva (if Forza and 4Eva agree). A majority decision from these 3 is required
to settle any dispute. if the dispute concerns the referee's bet, then the
other 2 referee must adjudicate and arrive at a decision unanimously.


  • roll on melbourne!
  • Thanks Facty !!!

    Pole - Massa
    1st - Massa
    2nd - Kimi
    3rd - Alonso
    4th - Fisi
    1st out - Poor Ralphy
    Best ex - Fisi
  • Pole - Massa
    1st - Alonso
    2nd - Fisichella
    3rd - Massa
    4th - Heidfeld
    1st out - Sato
    Best ex - Fisichella

    [Edited on 14-3-07 by Telstar]
  • Originally posted by Telstar
    Best ex - Alonso
    read the new rules cautiously, Telstar:
    Name the ex-minardi driver (excluding Alonso)
  • Cool, facty; life goes on again...

    Pole: Kimi
    1st: Massa
    2nd: Fisi
    3rd: Alonso
    4th: Webber
    1st Out: Ralf
    best ex-min non-alonso: Fisi
  • Wonderful, well done.
    Here are my predictions:
    Malta 12pts, winner of Eurovision oops sorry, ....

    Pole: Massa
    1st: Kimi
    2nd: Massa
    3rd: Alonso
    4th : Fisichella
    1st Out: Davidson
    best ex minardi excluding alonso: Fisichella
  • Pole: Raikkonen
    1st: Raikkonen
    2nd: Massa
    3rd: Alonso
    4th: Kubica
    First Out: Fisico
    Best ex-Minardi excluding Alonso: Trulli
  • Pole: Raikkonen
    1st: Raikkonen
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Fisico
    4th: Rosberg
    1st Out: Sato
    Best ex Minardi: Fisico
  • Pole: Alonso
    1st: Raikkonen
    2nd: Kubica
    3rd: Alonso
    4th: Hamilton
    First Out: Sato
    Best ex-Minardi excluding Alonso: Webber
  • we're back!!!

    Pole - Kimi

    Winner - Kimi
    2nd - Kubica
    3rd - Quick Nick (Heidfeld)
    4th - Massa

    1st DNF - Albers

    Best ex Minardi ex alonso etc - Webber

    ***2 edits, 1 as i forgot to add a 4th place, and one to confirm my Quick Nick was for Heidfeld***

    [Edited on 17-3-07 by Minardi4eva]
  • Pole: Kimi

    1st: Alonso
    2nd: Massa
    3rd: Webber
    4th: Kubica

    First Out: Sutil

    Best Ex:Webber

    Edit: 16/3 - I had to change the best ex to Webber. Not very clever to have Webber as No. 4, and then Fisi as best ex? Doh!

    [Edited on 16-3-07 by Lease]
  • Pole: Massa

    1st: Alonso
    2nd: Massa
    3rd: Kimi
    4th: Fisi

    First Out: Sutil

    Best Ex:Fisi

    [Edited on 16-3-07 by SuperRoo]
  • Pole: Kimi
    1st: Alonso
    2nd: Hamilton
    3rd: Massa
    4th: Kubica
    First Out: Sutil
    Best Ex: Fisi
  • Pole: Alonso
    1st: Alonso
    2nd: Massa
    3rd: Hamilton
    4th: Fisi
    First Out: Webber
    Best Ex: Fisi
    (both Ferraris dnf...Webber engine probs)
  • Pole: Massa
    1st: Massa
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Quick Nick
    4th: Wurz
    First Out: Hamilton
    Best Ex Minardi: Fisichella
  • Nice bandwidth the RJ. Quick Nick could be Heidfeld, or Rosberg?
  • oh sorry, i mean heidfeld
  • Pole: Kimi
    1st: Massa
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Kimi
    4th: Heidfeld
    1st DNF: Speed
    Ex Minardi: Trulli
  • a. Pole - F. Massa
    b. 1st - F. Massa
    c. 2nd - K. Räikkönen
    d. 3rd - F. Alonso
    e. 4th - Lewis Hamilton
    f. 1st Out - M. Webber
    g. Best Ex - G. Fisichella
  • Pole: Massa
    Winner: Massa
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Kimi
    4th: Hamilton
    1st out: Webber
    ExMinardi #1: Alonso

    Webber to go out with gearbox issue.
  • p1: there had to be a reason why no one picked alonso to be first ex-minardi, right?

    [Edited on 16-3-07 by FactyCrab]
  • Pole: Alonso
    1st: Massa
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Kimi
    4th: Kubica
    DNF: Ralf
    Ex-Minardi: Fisico
  • editted my original post
  • minardi4eva and all,

    this is not good (and NOT allowed by rule 6.0) to edit on the day of qualifying as there is no time stamp for any edits done.

    edits when done only has the date stamp and we won't have any evidence other than i monitoring before the qualifying that this was indeed edited before qualifying.

    the no-edit on qualifying day rule was done specifically for this reason above.

    if anyone who needs to change their bets before qualifying on qualifying day, it is just as easy to delete the former post and put in amended bets as a new post...this is ok so long as done before qualifying as new posts have date AND time stamps.

    i let your edit go this time but let this be the final warning to all...please, please do not edit on qualifying date as it will immediately void the bets!

    thank you all.

    [Edited on 17-3-07 by FactyCrab]
  • hear hear.

    no editing allowed, it's against the spirit as well. :(
  • ^ P1 knows how to read the rules ;)
  • Sorry

    *goes and stands in the corner*

    (Your fault Facty for changing the rules to selecting a 1-2-3-4!!! :P)
  • 2007 Results after Rd.1 - Aus
    Pos/'06 C'ship Pos/Name/After Rd.1

    1 0 Big_Harry 11
    2 8 Minardi4eva 7
    3 3 Neil_s 6
    3 9 steamdrivenhammer 6
    3 14 manlio27 6
    6 10 forzaminardi 5
    7 3 FactyCrab 4
    7 6 max_torq 4
    7 0 PistonBroke 4
    7 0 Clown 4
    11 7 Telstar 3
    11 0 MinardiP1 3
    13 1 Minardus 2
    13 2 JumpeySpyder 2
    13 12 SuperRoo 2
    13 13 Biker 2
    13 0 Lease 2

    good start, Big_Harry and congrats! But watch out for last year's top 3.
  • Gut gemacht, Big Harry :o
  • Originally posted by forzaminardi
    Gut gemacht, Big Harry :o
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