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2009 FORZAMINARDI.COM CHALLENGE - ROUND 02 - MAL (3-5 APR 2009)

2009 FORZAMINARDI.COM CHALLENGE - ROUND 02 - MAL (3-5 APR 2009)

2009 FORZAMINARDI CHALLENGE: RULES:

1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 point (pole getter is defined as the one who is on pole
when the race is started)
b. Winner of GP - 4 points
c. Second in GP - 3 points
d. Third in GP - 2 points
e. Fourth in GP - 1 point
f. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether
through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag
for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
g. Name the ex-minardi driver who finishes in the highest
position in the race amongst all ex-minardi drivers - 2 points

All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out
before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in
the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6
two days before race day (e.g. if race day is on Sunday, final edit right is
day-stamp of post Friday).

2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. the glory of being the season's Forzaminardi.com champion...plus whatever additional prize R-J
or the others may want to throw in. :-)

3.0 The organisers are manlio27 and FactyCrab.

4.0 The qualifying and race results FIRST published by formula1.com will be
used to judge the bets placed unless the refrees by a majority decision decides to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race. No appeal to organisers' decision which is
final.

5.0 If the organisers cannot make a decision, they will consult R-J and/or
Neil_s and/or Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.

6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be
submitted before the first quali session start. Any bets submitted after the
first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first
quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday
practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is
because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have
been done. it just says which date the edit was done.

7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification
resulting from not starting the race does not fall under this description of
DQ.

8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the
bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.

9.0 The referees of this 2008 ForzaMinardi Challenge are FactyCrab, manlio27,
Forzaminardi, Neil_s and Minardi4eva (if Neil, R-J, Facty and 4eva agree). A majority decision
from these 5 is required to settle any dispute. If the dispute concerns the
referee's bet, then the other 4 referees must adjudicate and arrive at a majority
decision.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PLEASE NOTE RULE CHANGES MADE TO 1.0G AND 4.0!!!

2009 Results After Rd. 1 AUS
Pos/Overall Pos 2008/Name/Rd. 1

2009 Results After Rd. 1 AUS
Pos/Overall Pos 2008/Name/Rd. 1

1. 2. Minardi4eva 6
2. 3. JumpeySpyder 5
3. 5. Factycrab 2
3. 6. SuperRoo 2
3. 8. Manlio27 2
3. 11 PistonBroke 2
7. 9. Steamdrivenhammer 0
7. 10 Neil_s 0
7. 1. Stan 0
7. 4. Telstar 0
7. 12 forzaminardi 0
- 7. Minardifan2002 -


Medals Table after Rd 1
Pos/Pos Overall Pos 2008/Gold/Silver/Bronze
1. 2. Minardi4eva 1 0 0
2. 3. JumpeySpyder 0 1 0
3. 5. Factycrab 2
3. 6. SuperRoo 2
3. 8. Manlio27 2
3. 11 PistonBroke 2

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

OK, results for round 1 changed once again to above. (Please refer to Minardi4eva's post on Trulli's reinstatement in the round 1 thread).

Rule 4.0 also reverts to as before rd. 1 was run with addition of "unless the refrees by a majority decision decides to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race."

[Edited on 31-3-09 by FactyCrab]

[Edited on 2-4-09 by FactyCrab]

Comments

  • Bet placed by Neil_s for MAL:

    Pole: Button
    1st: Button
    2nd: Massa
    3rd: Barrichello
    4th: Kubica
    1st Out: Buemi
    best ex Minardi - Trulli


    [Edited on 3-4-09 by FactyCrab]
  • Pole: Rubens
    1st: Button
    2nd: Trulli
    3rd: Rubens
    4th: Rosberg
    1st Out: Naka's
    best ex Minardi - Trulli
  • so, minardi4eva and neil_s, what happens now, trulli reinstated and hamilton and team penalised for misleading the stewards!!!

    rule 4.0 unchanged is best?
  • *commented on the other thread*
  • Pole: Barichello
    1st: Button
    2nd: Barichello
    3rd: Rosberg
    4th: Trulli
    1st Out: Kimi
    best ex Minardi - Trulli
  • Pole: Barrichello
    1st: Barrichello
    2nd: Trulli
    3rd: Hamilton
    4th: Button
    1st Out: Bourdais
    best ex Minardi - Trulli
  • Pole: Webber
    1st: Rubens
    2nd: Jenson
    3rd: Webber
    4th: Massa
    1st out: Fisi
    Best Ex Minardi: Webber
  • My thoughts on what happened in the last few days:
    1) Rules for our game, also according to Hamilton's DSQ and Trulli's reinstating in 3rd place. My idea is simply that we have to enforce the result FINALLY omologated by FIA, even though in theory it could imply a reopening of the results of a GP months later. Which is only a theoretical risk. And patience if it means for us reconsidering 2-3 times our table,as it is happening now. For Australia, therefore, I would reinstate the previous table, with Trulli 3rd and best ex Minardi.
    I suggest therefore this further change to the rule 4.0
    As for the best ex-Minardi rule, considering the current competitivity of Renault, Force India, Toyota and Red Bull, I agree that excluding Alonso makes no sense, so I'm happy with reverting to last year's rule.

    2) Considering Clewlis's behaviour in Australia, if it is true that he deliberately overbraked to force Trulli to either overtake or stop, the little guy (who is a super-champion, no question) keeps being a bit too smarty-smarty, and deserves to keep being punished.

    Finally, here are my bets for Malaysia:

    Pole: Button
    1st: Button
    2nd: Kubica
    3rd: Vettel
    4th: Rosberg
    First out: Nelsinho
    Best ex Minardi: Trulli
  • Pole:J. Button
    1st: J. Button
    2nd: R. Barrichello
    3rd: J. Trulli
    4th: K. Räikkönen
    First out: N. Rosberg
    Best ex Minardi: J. Trulli

    [Edited on 3-4-09 by JumpeySpyder]
  • POL: Rosberg
    1ST: Barrichello
    2ND: Rosberg
    3RD: Massa
    4TH: Button
    OUT: Buemi
    EXM: Alonso
  • Pole: BUTTON
    1st: RAIKKONEN
    2nd: MASSA
    3rd: BUTTON
    4th: BARRICHELLO
    1st Out: BOURDAIS
    best ex Minardi - WEBBER
  • Oh yeah, almost forgot about this!!!

    Pole - Button

    1st - Rubens
    2nd - Kimi
    3rd - Rosberg
    4th - Webber

    1st DNF - Piquet

    Best ex Minardi - Webber
  • Q in 5 minutes!!
  • i'm so incompetent
  • stop scolding yourself all the time, r-j!
  • Hmmmm, why the hell have i put Rubers as race winner?? Meant to be Button!
    Serves me right for doing it whilst half asleep
    Never mind, hope it turns out for the better.

    [Edited on 4-4-09 by Minardi4eva]
  • 2009 Results After Rd. 2 MAL
    Pos/Pos Before/Name/After Rd. 1/Rd. 2/After Rd. 2

    1. 2. JumpeySpyder 5 8 13
    2. 3. Manlio27 2 8 10
    3. 1. Minardi4eva 6 2 8
    3. 3. SuperRoo 2 6 8
    3. 7. Neil_s 0 8 8
    6. 7. Telstar 0 7 7
    7. 3. Factycrab 2 2 4
    8. 7. forzaminardi 0 2 2
    8. 3. PistonBroke 2 0 2
    10. 7. Steamdrivenhammer 0 0 0
    10. 7. Stan 0 0 0
    - 7. Minardifan2002 -


    Medals Table after Rd 2
    Pos/Pos Before/Gold/Silver/Bronze
    1. 2. JumpeySpyder 1 1 0
    2. 1. Minardi4eva 1 0 0
    3. 3. Manlio27 0 1 1
    4. 3. SuperRoo 0 0 2
    5. 3. Factycrab 0 0 1
    5. 3. PistonBroke 0 0 1
    5. 0. Minardi4eva 0 0 1
    5. 0. Neil_s 0 0 1

    Are the above correct?????

    Now don't anybody tell me to give half points because of the 75% rule OK!!!! Thanks.
  • Facty,the points' table is correct.
    As for the medals' one, actually Jumpey, myself and Neil all got 8 points, so we shall all get a "gold" medal, and no silver and bronza are awarded.
    Table corrected as per below.

    2009 Results After Rd. 2 MAL
    Pos/Pos Before/Name/After Rd. 1/Rd. 2/After Rd. 2

    1. 2. JumpeySpyder 5 8 13
    2. 3. Manlio27 2 8 10
    3. 1. Minardi4eva 6 2 8
    3. 3. SuperRoo 2 6 8
    3. 7. Neil_s 0 8 8
    6. 7. Telstar 0 7 7
    7. 3. Factycrab 2 2 4
    8. 7. forzaminardi 0 2 2
    8. 3. PistonBroke 2 0 2
    10. 7. Steamdrivenhammer 0 0 0
    10. 7. Stan 0 0 0
    - 7. Minardifan2002 -


    Medals Table after Rd 2
    Pos/Pos Before/Gold/Silver/Bronze
    1. 2. JumpeySpyder 1 1 0
    2. 3. Manlio27 1 0 1
    3. 1. Minardi4eva 1 0 0
    3. 0. Neil_s 1 0 0
    5. 3. SuperRoo 0 0 1
    5. 3. Factycrab 0 0 1
    5. 3. PistonBroke 0 0 1

    Concerning rule 4.0, I agree with your suggestion, let's leave it as proposed by you.

    Congrats to Neil, Jumpey and (modestly :-)) myself for being the Malaysian round winners, and pity for Telstar and SuperRoo who, with 7 and 6 points respectively, did not get any medal!

    "See" you all in Shangai in a couple of weeks!
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