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1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 points (pole getter is defined as the one who is on pole
when the race is started)
b. Winner of GP - 4 points
c. Second in GP - 3 points
d. Third in GP - 2 points
e. Fourth in GP - 1 point
f. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether
through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag
for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
g. Name the ex-Minardi driver who finishes in the highest
position in the race amongst all ex-minardi drivers - 2 points

All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out
before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in
the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6
two days before race day (e.g. if race day is on Sunday, final edit right is
day-stamp of post Friday).

2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. the glory of being the season's Forzaminardi.com champion...plus whatever additional prize R-J
or the others may want to throw in. :-)

3.0 The organisers are manlio27 and FactyCrab.

4.0 The qualifying and race results FIRST published by formula1.com will be
used to judge the bets placed unless the referees by a majority decision decide to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race. No appeal to organisers' decision which is

5.0 If the organisers cannot make a decision, they will consult R-J and/or
Neil_s and/or Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.

6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be
submitted before the first quali session starts. Any bets submitted after the
first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first
quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday
practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is
because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have
been done, it just says which date the edit was done.

7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification
resulting from and/or with not starting the race does not fall under this description of

8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the
bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.

9.0 The referees of this 2011 ForzaMinardi Challenge are FactyCrab, manlio27,
Forzaminardi, Neil_s and Minardi4eva (if Neil, R-J, Facty and 4eva agree). A majority decision
from these 5 is required to settle any dispute. If the dispute concerns the
referee's bet, then the other 4 referees must adjudicate and arrive at a majority

Here is our updated Roll of Honour:
2005 - Biker
2006 - Minardus
2007 - FactyCrab
2008 - Stan
2009 - Neil_S
2010 - PistonBroke


And here are my predictions for Australia:

Pole: Vettel
1st: Webbo
2nd: Vettel
3rd: Massa
4th: Heidfeld
First out: Karthikeyan
Best ex Minardi: Webbo

RJ, should you appear (you recently almost left your own forum!!!!! :-)), can you please top this post?


  • Pole: Vettel
    1st: Vettel
    2nd: Webber
    3rd: Alonso
    4th: Schumacher
    First out: Karthikeyan
    Best ex Minardi: Webber
  • Pole: Massa
    Win: Alonso
    Second: Webber
    Third: Massa
    Fourth: Barrichello
    First Out: Button
    Best Ex: Alonso

    Ah, why not
  • Pole: Seb
    1st: Alonso
    2nd: Webber
    3rd: Vettel
    4th: Clewlis
    First out: Jarno
    Best ex Minardi: Alonso

    [Edited on 26-3-11 by SuperRoo]
  • Defending Champion Here - can I make it two in a row?

    Pole: Vettel
    1st: Vettel
    2nd: Alonso
    3rd: Alonso
    4th: Heidfeld
    First out: Perez
    Best ex Minardi: Alonso
  • g'day everyone!
    thanks manlio!
    wud be a first dbl champion if you do piston!

    oops, need to put out new bets below

    [Edited on 26-3-11 by FactyCrab]
  • Pole: S. Vettel
    1st: M. Webber
    2nd: L.Hamilton
    3rd: S. Vettel
    4th: F Alonso
    First out: J. d'Ambrosio
    Best ex Minardi: M. Webber
  • laying my new bets before quali as follows:

    Pole: Vettel
    1st: Webber
    2nd: Hamilton
    3rd: Vettel
    4th: Button
    First out: Petrov
    Best ex Minardi: Webber
  • ooops I missed the first round.... I gave you some chance :-)
  • Oooh eck completely forgot about this :(
  • just to make sure I will put my bets in time for Malaysia, here they are!
    Pole: Vettel
    1st: Vettel
    2nd: Hamilton
    3rd: Alonso
    4th: Webber
    First out: Trulli
    Best ex Minardi: Alonso
  • Classification after Rd. 01 - AUS

    1 PistonBroke 8
    2 JumpeySpider 6
    2 Telstar 6
    4 FactyCrab 5
    5 SuperRoo 4
    6 Lease 2
    6 manlio27 2

    So, everything started as it had finished in Abu Dhabi, not only for PistonBroke leading our table (;-)) but also for Vettel dominating ahead of the McLaren, with Ferdy stuck behind Petrov and Webbo not able to keep up with Ferdy.

    Let's wait for China before talking loud, but it seems to me this year will be very fought, as Macca has enormous improvement margins, so has Ferrari (remember where they were at one half of last season) and Vettel will go on making mistakes, despite being the WC he's still also a youngster.

    Sauber will have a great season, and so Renault (give some time to Nick, who has probably lost his best form anyway, ah, if Kubica was there.....). Williams, to respond to RJ's other post, seems not bad, but it is clear they are never again going to fight for wins and championship, they just are in the middle of the long way down Brabham, Lotus and Tyrrell experienced in the past.

    As for Merc.....they have to wait another year......who know if M$ will take the right decision and leave at some point during the season.....but I do not think so!

    Toro Rosso seems in better form than last year, and so does Lotus.

    HRT will not finish the season, and Virgin just has one more year to show it CAN improve, if it does not, branson will close the tap at the end of the year.

    Give Webbo and Massa another 2/3 races to see if they regain grip or motivation, but, if not (and, in the case of Felipe, i'm afraid not), next year they may be driving a Williams.
  • Guys - give up now - you know your beaten ;)

    Im hoping Team Lotus will do well this race. I hope Mark will do well too.
    Comment on Crash.net has Seb saying his favourite driver of all time was Rindt and team as Team Lotus. Hmmm, might have to change my opinion of him a bit. Glad he didnt say Schumacher.
  • Malaya

    Pole Vettel
    Win Vettel
    Second Webber
    Third Alonso
    Fourth Rosberg
    First Out Petrov
    Best Ex Webber
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